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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:49 pm 
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Hi

We are currently determining whether to go with BO or OBIEE. The reporting will be over an ODS stored in an Oracle database (3NF) as well as a data mart for payments reporting (star schema). One consideration is that we may wish to join multiple sources together in the reporting layer without physically bringing the data together in the one ODS. From what I am aware this is a capability B.O has but OBIEE does not, could anyone clarify?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:07 am 
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Welcome to BOB, Troy.

Obviously there will be a significant amount of bias towards BusinessObjects on here due to the levels of experience with that compared to OBIEE. That said I know of one person who has used both and says that he prefers BO anyway. He didn't say what was bad about OBIEE in comparison, just that he found BO much more user friendly.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:11 am 
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The question is: Can OBIEE access Non-Oracle data sources easily?
Is it intuitive and easy to use for ad-hoc users?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:58 am 
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I recently attended a demo of OBIEE, and was surprised to see that there was no security checking when viewing a report.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:01 pm 
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Mark P wrote:
Welcome to BOB, Troy.

....what was bad about OBIEE in comparison, just that he found BO much more user friendly.


Why not look at what the companies look at. That is $$$

BO no more than 2-3 million. OBIEE more than 10 million
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:30 am 
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ColumbiaIT wrote:
Mark P wrote:
Welcome to BOB, Troy.

....what was bad about OBIEE in comparison, just that he found BO much more user friendly.


Why not look at what the companies look at. That is $$$

BO no more than 2-3 million. OBIEE more than 10 million


In terms of what, the cost?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:34 pm 
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Sorry, but yes, the cost. OBIEE is ridiculously priced and as I see it doesn't offer the 'bang for the buck'.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:36 pm 
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ColumbiaIT wrote:
Sorry, but yes, the cost. OBIEE is ridiculously priced and as I see it doesn't offer the 'bang for the buck'.


Fair enough. While cost is indeed an issue, I think functional fit would be first for me then I can get a business case together as to why we should get the cheaper one. Oh, wait a sec. icon_mrgreen.gif

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:43 am 
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OBIEE can pull in data from multiple sources without a problem. It has a long list of native DB drivers that it can handle, plus has full ODBC support, so that part is not a problem.

The biggest drawback that I've encountered so far with OBIEE (I've been in the BO world for 10+ years and just recently have been pulled into the OBIEE world), is that you can only publish one repository (the metadata layer) to the OBIEE server as opposed to BO where you can have as many universes on the server that you want. So if you have multiple departments that you want to provide reporting to, in BO you might have one HR universe, one Sales universe and one Marketing universe and you grant security to just the universe that each user/group should have access to. In OBIEE, you would have all of that in one big repository and would control security at the Presentation layer level by Subject Area. Seems to me like it causes your repository to be overly-bloated with a bunch of classes/objects that might not be visible to most users, but there is no other option with OBIEE.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:19 pm 
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I've been using OBIEE over the past 6 months. Generally the functionality looks impressive but I found the products weren't as mature as you'd expect with BO, there was more bugginess, at least with the version we were using.

Yes, using BI Publisher you can join two queries from two different data sources within one Data model, however I found the interface for doing this unintuitive or buggy (i'm not sure which) and gave up and decided to do it in the ETL.

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