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Which flavour of Designer are you using?
(This poll does not expire)
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| IDT |
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18% |
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| UDT |
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50% |
[ 35 ] |
| Both |
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31% |
[ 22 ] |
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BOETL2012
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Joined: 27 Aug 2012
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 Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:23 am
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Sorry, after playing around with IDT for a while it is NOT an intuitive app at all and really shouldn't be part of BO; who created that mess!
Although IDT has more power to work with its far to messy to work... reminds me of working with MSTR and short venture with Crystal; both <GARBAGE> and should be disposed of  |
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ABILtd
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Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Posts: 1916
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:42 am
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I was part of the team that originally designed and QA`d Business View Manager in Crystal (before the 2003 buyoff).
I kind of like IDT because it`s very similar (i.e. modular data connection, foundation, business layer) to that. I just wish they would implement parametrised data connection like BVD had!
Andy
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Nick Daniels
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Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 14246
Location: England
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:10 am
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Lugh
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Joined: 16 Jul 2009
Posts: 1158
Location: Herndon, VA
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:53 pm
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Nick Daniels
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Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:58 am
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DanDensley
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Joined: 12 May 2009
Posts: 248
Location: Bristol
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:23 am
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| I'd like to try IDT more and use some of the expanded features, however the upgrade path for reports is holding us back currently. Having to manually change them all is not helpful. At all. Am I missing something clever? |
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Mak 1
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Joined: 06 Jan 2005
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Location: London
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:30 am
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Dan, there is a consultancy "solution", but you would have to pay SAP for it. Been available for a while.
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DanDensley
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:52 am
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@Mak 1 - ah, the money making opportunity, that's what I was missing  . Thanks for the reply. |
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Andreas
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:58 am
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Either use SDK to code your own solution, or go with SAP Consulting , or look at APOS, a 3rd Party solution to help you with your migration (unV to UnX and repointing Webi to new unX).
I personally do not favor migrating to unX just for the sake of it. Start new projects as unX, and keep the old ones as unV, unless you have a specific reason to migrate to unX such as optional universe prompts or using dynamic default prompts in unX (new with 4.1 SPP6), etc.
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joepeters
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:03 am
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| It is possible with the REST API. Painful, but it works. |
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Nick Daniels
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:16 am
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di652
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Joined: 24 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:36 pm
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| DanDensley wrote: | | I'd like to try IDT more and use some of the expanded features, however the upgrade path for reports is holding us back currently. Having to manually change them all is not helpful. At all. Am I missing something clever? |
The only thing you are missing is the extra time, effort and clumsiness on trying to get IDT to work.
As earlier postings said; similar to Microstrategy and Crystal and like them both once you do get to the end it is done.
Problem is BI needs can't wait for this to happen.
I agree Crystal and IDT - > |
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JonnySpec
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Joined: 01 Aug 2008
Posts: 138
Location: Tampa,fl USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:49 am
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| Why does everyone hate Crystal? I think it is a great tool. I believe Webi has many short comings. |
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Andreas
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:01 am
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| JonnySpec wrote: | | Why does everyone hate Crystal? I think it is a great tool. I believe Webi has many short comings. |
Moderator note:
I kindly suggest to open a new thread if you'd like to discuss pro & cons of Webi vs. Crystal.
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ebeth
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Joined: 31 Oct 2012
Posts: 116
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:12 am
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| When converting a universe from unv to unx - is there any way of comparing the two universes to make sure everything is still "in place"? Like the universe comparison/documenter tools I've found in here, only for comparing a unv universe with the unx version of itself? |
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